David Grubbs moderates a discussion of Dr. Nathan Gilmour's dissertation Ethical Succession, an exploration of theology and literature. We take on the question of literature as theology, ponder whether Nathan was entirely unfair to Luther and Calvin, and talk about the process of writing and defending a doctoral dissertation. Among the writers, texts, and concepts discussed are Spenser, Shakespeare, Milton, The Rape of Lucrece, David Bentley Hart, Plato, Luther, Calvin, and Erasmus.