Nathan Gilmour moderates the beginning of a discussion with David Grubbs and Michial Farmer (Gilmour had a meeting to make, so the others finished it up) about environmentalism, Christian responses to the same, literary treatments of the natural world, and other groovy stuff. Among the texts and ideas discussed are Genesis, Romans, Augustine, Leonardo da Vinci, Baruch Spinoza, and naive city-slicker environmentalists.