Nathan Gilmour moderates a conversation with David Grubbs and Michial Farmer about... the Christian Humanist Podcast! We recount the roots of the show, the sorts of episodes that we tend to record, and the fights that always seem to show up when people write nice things about our show. Among the ideas and episodes we discuss are the curator episodes, the triptychs, the Christian Humanist Blog, and the future of the project. See www.christianhumanist.org for an index, by episode number, of the shows discussed.